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Davren's Rogue Guide From insight 1 to 99

#1 User is offline   Davren 

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 11:02 AM

This guide is not a complete walkthrough for a rogue but rather a guide to help you learn traps in the correct order. Along the way to your next trap there will be many skills you can learn in addition to the skills and spells I have outlined. Taunt, Study Creature, Throw Surigam and Stab and Twist will be the key skills/spells to get on the way. Most of these spells can be learned at earlier levels than I have outlined but require difficult to get and often expensive items. This guide is for the common rogue who cannot afford such fancy equipment and must settle for plain god sets.

Stats after tutorial:
3-3-5-5-3

Stats at insight 5:
3-5-5-5-5

Learn Stiletto Trap at the Mileth Rogue. It costs one Good Snow Secret.

Next you need 20-6-3-18-10 for Coiled Bolt Trap

Go for con first

3-5-5-18-5 at insight 12

Then strength

7-5-5-18-5 at insight 14

Then dex and int

7-6-5-18-10 at insight 17

With a complete Cean set (including cean gold earings and creag neart spell) you now have 20 Str and can learn Coiled Bolt. It costs one Good Blossom Dagger and 10k coins at the Soumi Rogue.

You can also learn Study Creature now. It costs 1 Centipede's Gland and 5k coins at the Soumi Rogue. You wont need this skill right now but it will save you time on down the road.

You need 30 10 5 22 12 for Spring Trap

Again, go for con first

7-6-5-22-10 at insight 19

You need 10 more strength

17-6-5-22-10 at insight 24

Then dex and int

17-10-5-22-12 at insight 27

Using your cean set you used before you should have the necessary stats for Spring Trap. Spring trap costs 2 Fine Center Daggers and 10k coins at the Pravat Grimlok.

By this point you can either go straight for maiden and continue soloing or you can do what I did and start going for Great Blind Snare and Study Creature and begin group hunting.



--If going for Maiden First--

You need 35 12 5 18 45 for Maiden Trap

Your stats right now should be 17-10-5-22-12 at insight 27

You only need 5 more str, add your extra point at insight 30 to dex

22-10-5-22-13 at insight 30

Next get the necessary dex and int

22-12-5-22-45 at insight 47

Using your cean set again you should now be able to learn Maiden Trap. You can learn it one insight earlier using a pair of cean shagreen boots. Maiden Trap will cost you 2 Fine Light Daggers and 10k coins at the Pravat Grimlok.



--If going for Great Blind Snare First--

You need 13 20 9 6 25 to learn Great Blind Snare

Your stats right now should be 17-10-5-22-12 at insight 27

Go for dex first

17-10-5-22-23 at insight 33

With a Luathos set, a mythril or hy-b belt and Luathos Shagreen Boots you can now learn Great Blind Snare. It costs 4 Bat's Wings and 25k gold at the Astrid Kobold.

Once you max study creature you can blind and tell elements. This makes you a very useful and sometimes necessary member in a group and should take you all the way to 99.

You can now learn Maiden Trap, Peek and Sense at your own leisure so you may master when you reach 99.


***If you have any suggestions or changes feel free to post and I will update as necessary.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:51 PM

You're gonna need more Wis to hunt with those traps. What's the point of having Spring Trap at 27 if you can only cast it twice?
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:57 PM

Natia, on May 25 2005, 02:51 PM, said:

You're gonna need more Wis to hunt with those traps. What's the point of having Spring Trap at 27 if you can only cast it twice?
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Yes I strongly agree with this. I think a good rule for a new char is get the wis/con you'll need for skills/spells before anything else. (there are some exceptions... like priests) In this case I would say get at the very least 10 wis around the time you get stiletto. I myself would probably get 20 wis around that time (or more depending on whether I feel like extra hunting) wis is also pretty useful for hunting later on. Blinds don't take a lot of mana but if you ever run into a large ambush in CR, and you run out of mana blinding... well, you get the point.

Edit: Mana is also very good for when you become archer. The more you get as you level the less you will have to buy to be a good archer.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 03:32 PM

Good good, keep the suggestions coming. I'm gonna play with it and see if I can get more mp in earlier.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 08:49 PM

Ok I've been testing out this stat plan with my new rogue and I don't like it so far. I think because it's focus is mostly solo-hunting (which I hate doing). It would make a good solo hunter stat plan but don't do this plan if you like to group hunt.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 08:52 PM

get more mp, get great blind very early, and group hunt.
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 12:30 PM

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Get tuant lvl 4

leech in woods till 30

get great blind

Hunt from 30-46

get spring

go to medenia leech yourself to 75

get leeched in sw or mtns till 99 then use stats to get all skills/spells

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:16 AM

Sorry im new here.You list stats but I don't know which numbers go into which stat sorry for being a new but im new to this game :)
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:25 AM

str-int-wis-con-dex
3-3-5-5-3

be careful following this stat plan, its not the best.

if you're new to the game, you might want to try a warrior class, they're a little easier than juggling traps and mana that a rogue has.

but if you really want to go rogue (and with most classes), first thing you should do is get about 10 wis and 10 con right off the bat. these help you in the long run with your hp and mp rise/level.
then following the stat plan might be useful, but just warning, everyone screws up their first character :P

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:38 AM

If you're going to play a rogue as your first class, the best course of action would be buying WoW.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:00 PM

View PostCronus, on Jan 24 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

If you're going to play a rogue as your first class, the best course of action would be buying WoW.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:05 PM

Just to let everyone know, this is the definition of acceptable thread necromancy.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:10 PM

So, I'm thinking about doing a speed run through GTA:SA since I just found a PS2 -> TV cord that works (Haven't played my PS2 in like 4 months).

Only problem is:


My memory card doesn't work now.

So I'd have to do it all in one sitting.

Edit: Maybe I should do a speed run to 100% completion, too :O



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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:07 PM

To get this thread back on topic a bit...

It's a decent enough guide. It is a bit too much solo-play oriented for my liking, and I'd advice any aspiring rogue to take more wisdom then that, but it's decent.

If I were to make a new baby rogue, I would get his wis and con both up to 20 before doing many other things. True, it'll be a pain to get up higher during some moments, but it would pay off in the end.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 03:33 AM

View PostCronus, on Jan 24 2007, 02:38 PM, said:

If you're going to play a rogue as your first class an mmorpg that doesn't suck, the best course of action would be buying WoW.



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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:04 AM

But it does suck.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:13 PM

any mods ignore my last post wrong thread lawl
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