[Crybaby]

As stated in my second post, quau, I don't expect this to change anything. You should try reading.

[Irving]

So you aim to do pointless things instead of conducting yourself in a manner that'll yield a higher chance of getting something done? Try thinking.

[Crybaby]

That would make sense if the end goal was to change Dark Ages. It's not. I stated in this exact thread that my goal was never to change Dark Ages. But then again if it doesn't make sense to you it must be pointless. Your stupidity is astounding, die in a fire.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 30 March 2008 - 09:57 PM

[Irving]

Faunadestia, on Mar 30 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

That would make sense if the end goal was to change Dark Ages. It's not. I stated in this exact thread that my goal was never to change Dark Ages. But then again if it doesn't make sense to you it must be pointless. Your stupidity is astounding, die in a fire.

We get it Faunadestia; you're angry and rebellious.

You stated that "The purpose of this thread is to collect feedback on the ideas listed so that I can refine this list.". In my eyes, Skee posted the best suggestions as to how you should revise your little list. I told you as much. You also stated yourself that you would be sending this list to KRU. I merely reinforced what Skee said. Why? Because it's a more effective approache than [filtered]ty suggestions.

If your final planned action was to send this revised list to KRU, then your only logical goal would be to see change within the game. There are no other possibilities there. Also way to take the only real revision with a grain of salt. I think you thought people were going to praise your ideas.

So once again idiot, listen to what Skee suggested, because as of now you just have a pile of [filtered]. Although I doubt any revisions you make will improve your pile of [filtered], because a pile of [filtered] such as yourself can't be expected to produce anything better than you guessed it, a pile of [filtered].

EDIT: At least you acknowledge the worthlessness of your suggestions in your own second post. It takes a real tool to know they're a tool and plow on forward anyways.

This post has been edited by guau! guau!: 30 March 2008 - 10:21 PM

[Crybaby]

If I didn't know better I'd say you were just trolling, but you can't be this stupid on purpose. Then again, I don't really expect from from a child.

Edit; Lock topic please.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 30 March 2008 - 10:48 PM

[Acht]

lol, eli's feelings got hurt.

"i got some good advice from someone i don't like, time to get hostile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!"

...

"oh [filtered], now i look stupid. MOD, CLOSE THIS SO I CAN'T LOOK STUPIDER PLZ"

[Crybaby]

Hi kyle, no.

[Acht]

really? no? it seems that way to me. you ask for feedback, and then when you get some that you don't like, you get angry about it, reply in a hostile manner, and when it gets thrown back at you to the point you can't handle it, you try getting the thread closed. but that's not surprising for you, since you're really unable to come up with any valid arguments of your own, or just reuse old ones.

in short, (and i hate myself for using this phrase): pp moar.

btw, don't say you're not hoping for some sort of change to darkages. if you weren't, you wouldn't be wasting your time and their's with this [filtered].

[Crybaby]

The first post asked for feedback in a specific format, replies failed for the most part to follow simple requests and that's why I replied in a "hostile" manner. I asked for the thread closed because I have no interested arguing with a 17 year old, or you for that matter. In short, I don't care, [filtered] off.

Edit; Irony that you can post in a thread and, at the same time, call it a waste of time.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 31 March 2008 - 12:17 AM

[Kakarott]

Eli, what ARE your intentions, then?

I mean, you're fully aware that the whole idea is an exercise in futility; so what is your ultimate goal, if you are aware that it will accomplish nothing?

[Crybaby]

My goal is to refine a single patch for DA that would fix a grand majority of the problems and bugs that plague it. Then, once those changes are all listed and developed, I want to make those changes on a private server.

Edit; On the side, it wouldn't hurt to send these ideas to KRU regardless of their response, hence the format.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 31 March 2008 - 12:33 AM

[Kakarott]

If you had said that from the beginning, I'm sure 90% of the 'lol they rnt gunna change da' posts in this thread wouldn't have been made.

I had a feeling this was your intent, I thought I'd lead the questioning in that direction. :)

This post has been edited by Kakarott: 31 March 2008 - 12:34 AM

[Crybaby]

I disagree. Had I even mentioned a, zOmg, "private server" the comments would have been an entire 'nother brand of stupid; "Hax! Nevar gunna happun! THERE IS NO PRIVATE SERVERS."

Edit; You can't stop the stupid, just dress it up.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 31 March 2008 - 12:39 AM

[Nlky]

Most people know by now that there are private servers, I would think.

It sorta gets advertised everywhere.

[Irving]

How cunning and indirect of you TC

[Blader]

I love how everyone who plays this game is so against attempting to make changes, however every single one of them loves to complain.

The ones who DO attempt to get something changed, ask for the opinions of those who will obviously only complain and what happens? We get told to join the masses who do NOTHING to help themselves. Every single day I get more and more fed up with the population of DA, and I'm beginning to realize why the world has always considered Gamers to be losers. After all, from what I'm seeing they're a bunch of "do nothing" and complain when nothing gets done. So what if KRU has in the past ignored our attempts, even our pleas.

The point is, we should still try, if you've given up and you have ANY problems with the game what so ever, just quit, afterall it's not going to get ANY better like you continually say. The truth is, we as players have never actually attempted to intelligently have anything changed.

Telling KRU why we want changes to be implemented or how/why it will help will allow them to see WHY we want changes made. If I tell my boss he needs to fire someone he's going to look at me like I'm stupid. If I say, "Fire him, his calls take too long, and put more stress on me." Once again, he might look at me like I'm stupid but he's more likely to look into it, and if I go a step farther and say, "Hey, you should look into firing Larry, his calls are really long and it puts more stress on me and the other techs. The sooner you get him out of here, the sooner you can hire someone else who's actually going to be able to do the job properly." It seems like less of a personal attack on Larry and more of me looking out for the benefit of the company.

I work in a customer service industry, I've been doing the same thing for several different companies since 2001, and the only reason I haven't been with the same company is because I'd try new things when I got back to town from College, or from when I moved to NYC, or any number of reasons.

Anyways, everyone who has something negative to say, just stop. Stop trying to discourage those people who want to try, let them try let them fail, hell we're even giving into you saying, "Oh we're sure this won't work but....."

SO, all that being said, if you LIKE his suggestions, when he gets his revised version, please pm him here, I'm sure he'd like support when he goes to KRU with the idea. I know myself for one, I will mail KRU his list in similar form, with possibly my OWN reasons for wanting the changes to be made. This will allow KRU to see it's not just some random guy thinking he can do a better job than them. It's a guy who's already got community support, and a community who would like to see KRU make some changes.

[Nlky]

Blader, on Mar 31 2008, 07:11 AM, said:

I love how everyone who plays this game is so against attempting to make changes, however every single one of them loves to complain.

This is because the ones who don't love to complain, quit.

[Pixieboy]

Nlky, on Mar 31 2008, 10:53 AM, said:

This is because the ones who don't love to complain, quit.

And if everyone starts to quit, they will just close it down instead of making radical changes. A sad day that will be...

[Blader]

LoL Both of you are so correct :(

[enemie ropper]

When a successful private server is running a real "game" (not just a test farm) and there's direct competition for playerbase, you'll see either an increase in quality (due to competition) or you'll just see DA die flat out (in the case of a server that was overkill-good).

[Nlky]

But the other server would be better, so no real loss.

Except they couldn't charge, so they'd essentially have to be working harder than kru for zero money, which leads one to think it wouldn't last too long.

[SilentHawk]

They could charge with "donations."

[Nlky]

Would anyone pay, though?

[Crybaby]

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Except they couldn't charge, so they'd essentially have to be working harder than kru for zero money, which leads one to think it wouldn't last too long.

Running a private Dark Ages server would take little to no resources, and working harder than Kru isn't really a feat.

[Irving]

people buy stuff from KRU's item shop so me-thinks yes

[SilentHawk]

Nlky, on Mar 31 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

Would anyone pay, though?

Depends if the server owners decide to delete the characters if the character creator doesn't donate. Although I seriously doubt a private server would outdo DA because DA has politics and such for rule breakers. Without anyone enforcing rules, there would be speeders, 0 line spellers, harassment, etc.

[Acht]

as far as speeders/0 line spells/etc goes, i'm sure people here who are capable of making a private server would easily be able to prevent those, much better than kru would be able to.

[Fishfood:D]

im sure a private server could handle around 20 peeps, but when you get to the 100-200 range, hello lag

[Blader]

I could host 200 people...

[Crybaby]

Fishfood:D, on Apr 1 2008, 09:17 AM, said:

im sure a private server could handle around 20 peeps, but when you get to the 100-200 range, hello lag

Because when you have an official company name, like KRU, your [filtered]ty server is instantly better. But anyone else, no, they couldn't have a server with a good connection! UNTHINKABLE!

People don't realize that free, low requirement, games like RO have been running free shards that support large playerbases for years. Sure someone is going to foot the bill for a server and it's uptime costs, but I certainly wouldn't mind, and I have more need for a server than just to host a game I enjoy.

This post has been edited by Faunadestia: 01 April 2008 - 08:22 AM